 "As iron sharpens iron, so a man sharpens the countenance of his friend." (Proverbs 27:17)
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fluffywarthog
Joined: 07 Aug 2007 Posts: 4
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Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 7:02 pm Post subject: My Friends Tigger & Pooh |
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I'm hearing minced oaths way too much nowadays. I think that the problem is that most people have never heard of them before. Companies aren't aware of minced oaths, so they use them in their products for even the youngest kids. The kids aren't aware of them either, so they say them themselves. The parents aren't aware of minced oaths, so they don't tell their kids not to say them.
You have no idea how depressing it is to back to almost every single thing that you enjoyed to read or watch when you were a kid and be offended by it.
"My Friends Tigger & Pooh" is a new Disney TV show that seems to be doing very well so far. Literally every time I've watched it, I've been offended. I recently recorded almost all the episodes, and I typed up a list of the things that I find offensive. But then I realized that, at the moment, there is no real reason to do this. Why? Because they won't listen. The likeliness of Disney voicing over more than forty lines of dialogue because of one email is almost zero. I do pray about this more than once per day, but really, we can't just sit back and rely on God to do everything for us.
There are many words and phrases, however, that may or may not be profane. Here are most of them:
1. Describing things unrelated to God as being "heavenly"
2. "I'm pooped!"
3. "I promise..."
4. "I could have sworn..."
5. "Nuts!"
6. "What in the world?"
7. "What on Earth?"
8. "Oh dear!"
9. "Shucks!"
10. "Bother!"
11. "What the?"
12. "Nerts."
13. "I'm pooped!"
14. "Yuck!"
15. "I could have sworn that..."
16. "Nuts."
17. To make promises
18. "Oh, boy."
19. "Oh, man."
20. This one requires some description. In MFT&P, in almost every episode, Tigger, Pooh and Darby say the "Super Sleuth Oath," which goes like this: "Any time, any place, the Super Sleuths are on the case!"
21. "Bless me!"
22. "Geronimo!"
23. "Bless you!"
24. "Oh, my!"
25. "Oh goodness"
26. "Ish"
27. "Yuck"
Sorry it's so long, but I would greatly appreciate it if someone would tell me which ones are profane. I've been keeping my mouth shut for the most part lately, because I was realizing that so many words were profane.
Part of the reason that this is urgent is because "Pooh's Super Sleuth Christmas Movie" is set to be released in November! You can be sure that Disney isn't going to edit something that is already on DVD!
Besides strictly religious websites, I haven't found any website that condemns the use of minced oaths. I've worked on a website called Clean Voice, but it's very small, and I doubt that it will have any influence.
Although this might not seem like a big deal when compared to other problems today, innocent children are sinning. Also, the companies that produce material are causing them to sin, and as Jesus said in Mark 9:42, "If they do, it would be better for them to be thrown into the sea with a large millstone tied around their neck."
Clearly this must be dealt with, for the sake of children AND companies alike. I hope that you can give me some advice and help me. I'm only a teenager, and I don't know much about businesses.
Thank you for reading, and God be with you,
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BensMom
Joined: 22 Sep 2007 Posts: 5 Location: Texas
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Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 11:10 pm Post subject: |
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I agree with your thoughts. We've become so accustomed to hearing things like this (and much worse) on so-called "wholesome" family shows, that we often ignore it. I'm guilty of saying silly things like those myself without considering the real meaning. My son (almost 2 years old) is absolutely in love with Pooh. However, it bothers me that sinful things are in the original DVD. For example, when Pooh disguises himself as a rain cloud so he can steal honey from the bees, he asks Christopher Robin to lie for him and join him in "his deception" as he calls it by saying "Tut, tut! It looks like rain!" Lying is lying, even if it's from a bear to a bee. And what about the way Rabbit tries to lose Tigger in the woods or leave him dangling at the top of a tree. What kind of attitude are we teaching children about those who are different and perhaps even annoying? _________________ Chrystal
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fluffywarthog
Joined: 07 Aug 2007 Posts: 4
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Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 9:41 pm Post subject: |
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Well, I'm not sure if that last example is bad. After all, Rabbit does finally give in and accept Tigger the way he is, after Tigger promised never to bounce again. (Of course, I'm still not sure about promises) I think sins such as that are OK, as long as it isn't treated as being OK.
I guess I've never thought about the raincloud thing. The morals in Pooh don't make all that much sense. When Pooh hears Tigger in the tree shouting, "HALLOOOO," he instantly comes to the decision that jagulars do that, and when you look up, they drop on you. Pooh doesn't really know what sin is, he just does things to do things.
But remember, in the Bible, there is quite a bit of sin that isn't ever stated as being bad. I guess my suggestion would be to make sure that your child understands that lying is wrong.  |
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BensMom
Joined: 22 Sep 2007 Posts: 5 Location: Texas
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Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 9:57 pm Post subject: |
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| fluffywarthog wrote: | | But remember, in the Bible, there is quite a bit of sin that isn't ever stated as being bad. |
I'm not sure I understand what you mean by that. Care to explain? _________________ Chrystal
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fluffywarthog
Joined: 07 Aug 2007 Posts: 4
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Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2007 10:33 am Post subject: |
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Err, I'm not quite sure what I was thinking of a the time. Sorry. I posted that right before I went to bed.
Anyway, you may want to read this! http://www.cuttingedge.org/news/n1095.cfm
OK, I realize that this may not be convincing, but I have read the same things on other websites, and I've seen many Disney movies, so I know what they're talking about.
If I were you, I would keep your son away from Disney!
Edit: Although the article is fairly old, here is proof that it is still very relevant: www.disneychannel.com
A new show called "Wizards of Waverly Place has just been started, as well as the movie "Twitches Too," both of which star wizards and witches! |
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BensMom
Joined: 22 Sep 2007 Posts: 5 Location: Texas
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Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2007 12:08 pm Post subject: |
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| fluffywarthog wrote: | | If I were you, I would keep your son away from Disney! |
I assume you don't have any children? I won't be keeping him away from Disney by any means. In fact, my husband and I will be at Disney World again next week (yes, 30-somethings still have a childhood. We go every few years. ). I'll just pick-n-choose what my son watches, and I'll teach him what is right/wrong about the situations he sees. Just because we have to live in the world doesn't mean we should become part of the world. He'll be exposed to a lot of things throughout his life, so I want to be there when he sees it. I don't want to shield him from everything completely and then release him as an adult unprepared. I think it'll be easier to teach him about lying to get what you want by showing him a bear lying to a bee than to try to explain corporate embezzlement.  _________________ Chrystal
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