Birth control, contraception , and abortions

thetruth1 · Joined: 12 Jul 2008 Posts: 24

Why are some against birth control and contraception and also against abortions?
I would assume anyone against abortions would naturally be for things that prevent it.

And where in the bible dose it talk about these issues?

thanks,

JSM17 · Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 7:15 am Post subject:

Abortion is murder I think we are all understanding about that. Sex outside of marriage is a sin as well.

So if are talking about contraception for the married couple then that is another issue.

There is a difference between termination and preventive measures.
Did God tell us to be fruitful and multiply until we have 12 children or does God allow us to discern when we should wait and be discerning about how many kids we bring into the world.

Sex is not just for procreation, it is a gift from God to those he has joined together in marriage.
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thetruth1 · Joined: 12 Jul 2008 Posts: 24

I think abortion is not murder.
If god didn't like dead fetuses then why is there a such thing in the world as miss carriages.
the baby wasn't born yet so he couldn't have been a bad Christian... yet
in the early times (when this was written) miss carriages were not rare and then having a child die of disease was common. If god was against was the death of young humans why did he create all that.
Some say that thats the work of the devil. Doesn't god know how to kill the devil yet? some all powerful ruler ay?
some say that is was from a witches curse, but come on now thats just silly, and medieval.
I think If destroy a fetus the life in the fetus is gone and moves on to the next fetus. the life really won't care... at all.
Some say that if you kill a fetus it doesn't have a chance to live. Well... if you were 'killed' before you were born how would you know?!? And why would you care. You can skip being saved, eating crackers, repenting your sins, and so on and go straight to heaven!! what better deal is that!

Thanks,

from your immoral, godless, sinning, going to hell atheist =D

JSM17 · Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 5:39 am Post subject:

Psalms 139:13 — "Truly you have formed my inmost being; you knit me in my mother's womb."

Jeremiah 1:5 — "Before I formed you in the womb, I knew you."

Job 33:4 — "For the spirit of God has made me, the breath of the almighty keeps me alive."

Psalms 139:15 — "When I was made in secret, when I was fashioned in the depths of the earth."

Isaiah 44:2 — "Thus says the Lord who made you, your help, who formed you from the womb:"

Isaiah 44:24 — "Thus says the Lord, your redeemer, who formed you from the womb: I am the Lord, who made all
things, who alone stretched out the heavens; when I spread out the earth, who was with me?"

Isaiah 45:12. — "I made the earth, I created man [hominem] upon it. [Super eam-before all].

If God takes a life it belongs to Him already, He created it if I take a life it does not belong to me, that is murder.

Most abortions are taking place because of man's rejection to his law.

In fact most atheist deny a GOD because they like their sin so much that to acknowledge a GOD would mean giving up on their immorality.

Any way you put it abortion is murder, the taking of life that does not belong to you or anyone else.
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thetruth1 · Joined: 12 Jul 2008 Posts: 24

but why wouldn't god protect little babies from being murdered. if he cared maybe he would stop it from happening. maybe he just doesn't care, assuming that god didn't write the bible.

i like when you say most atheist think that if they stop believing in god they can sin!
i think its funny how you talk about most atheists like you know them all. Have you met all the millions of us?
but the great thing about atheists is that they are all different and individual, like every single person on this earth!

do you think im immoral though? just because im not going to be punished for my sins? you think that people only are good to each other because they are scared if they don't? the only reason people aren't going off raping thieving, lying, killing each other because they want to get in heaven and are scared of hell?
i think that is a very profound insult to the human race. the bible gets its morals from humans not the other way around.
why aren't all atheist put in jail already based on what your saying? this is a big subject, better for another thread.

i deny god with logic, thats all. if someone gave me good evidence of god i will change my mind.
i am open minded, unlike a lot of people Ive talked to.

you said that if god takes a life it belongs to him already, were you taking about miscarriages? ( maybe disease too)
if he were then why would he have the woman carry it in her womb for 9 months, just to be let down?

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