In Search of Truth

sledford

You stated that Balaam was indwelt with the Holy Spirit. This is false for anyone indwelt by God constitues His child (2 Corinthians 6:16-18). Next... Here's what 2 Cor 6:16-18 really says for one: 16 And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as ...

sledford

He that asserts must prove. I did not initially assert they did. Therefore they must prove. Get a clue. That's convenient. And you haven't made an assertion yourself, that the text is not inspired and does not belong? You have pronounced conclusion and judgment of the "debate" but have not, and ref...

sledford

3. The Gentiles were indwelt with the Holy Spirit before they were water baptized in Acts 10. Therefore they were already saved before they were water baptized. How much did their water baptism contribute to them being saved? Nothing. For anyone continuing to read this thread I will recap one criti...

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They are making the assertion that it is inspired. I have given strong evidence that it is not. They then must supply the criteria for determing if a text is inspired. Based on what I have presented it is indeed a hopeless cuase. The word "hopeless" can only be stated in the presence of a standard,...

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I think your question ought to be asked to the person who started this thread. They assume it is Scripture. So they should tell us the standards to determine if this spurious text is Scripture. I am well aware that people such as Irenaeus quoted it but that does not necessitae that it is "inspired"...

sledford

Luke1, the analysis you provide from Mr. Hart is one of many that I have seen over the years in an attempt to explain that James 2 doesn't mean what it says. Mr. Hart's basic thesis, in my own summation, is that the demonstration of faith through works in James 2 is for other people, and not for God...

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Majority of manuscripts doesn't really mean much. The earliest ones do not have them. Manuscripts have to be weighed and not merely counted. The Syriac version discovered by Gibson and Lewis in 1892 pre-dates the Peshito and it concludes at verse 8. This statement demands an explanation: what EXACT...

sledford

Just as a person can be saved without obeying ALL the commands of God so too they can be saved without being water baptized. If you insist on one then you must hold the other to be true. No, they are not logically equivalent but you do need to consider these words from James: 17 Therefore to him th...

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The demons lived with God, and so obviously they know him. The demons, however, deny Jesus, the only name given under heaven whereby we must be saved. John 3:18 (KJV) He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name ...

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The jailer was not the only person in there. There were other prisoners. Acts 16:25 (KJV) And at midnight Paul and Silas prayed, and sang praises unto God: and the prisoners heard them. Then suddenly there was a great earthquake, and the doors were opened and everyones' bands were loosed. Did God d...

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The thief was saved by believing that Jesus was Messiah, Saviour of the World. Ephesians 2:8 (KJV) For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Ephesians 2:9 (KJV) Not of works, lest any man should boast. 2:10 (KJV) For we are his workmanship, created ...

sledford

I forgot to mention as well that there is no information given if this thief was ever baptized according to John's baptism of repentance which was commanded while under the last few years of the Old Law. We know only what is said by and to this thief while on the cross and therefore, it's a HUGE lea...

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The thief, which is the theme of this thread, was saved by faith only. He believed Jesus the Saviour of the world. Again, your reasoning and statements are incomplete. Under which covenant did this thief die? Jesus fulfillment of the Old Law did not occur until his resurrection and ascension to Hea...

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Mattew 28 says "all" are to be water baptized. This text does not state if it is salvific. It is salvific in Acts 2:38. It is not salvific in Acts 10:48. Since the Gentiles in Acts 10 were clearly saved before they were water baptized (something to which you keep avoiding) then water baptism is an ...

sledford

I'll certainly get around to addressing your three points above. They are certainly worthy of consideration. Jarrod, I'll let you be the judge of whether they are worthy or not but for reference purposes Marc has been on this topic for the past year as you can see from this other thread: http://for...

sledford

I see that respect for authority in Scripture commenting on Scripture, Divine commentary, is not what you want to hear. Marc, doesn't it seem odd that you accuse me of defining Greek words but I have not put forth one single Greek definition? The key is I don't need to (nor anyone else for that matt...

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These "men" are authoritative New Testament Greek scholars. I have provided several sources to back up my claim that "the gift of the Holy Spirit" refers to the same thing as used in both Acts 2:38 and 10:45. You have not provided one source. I would like to see sources that you can provide to back...

sledford

Marc, those are interesting quotes from MEN but none of them harmonize Joel 2 with Acts 2. Replacing the definition to be that the subject of "the gift" is the HS itself then presents a very serious problem with being "poured out" on "all flesh" as Joel states and then Peter applies on the day of Pe...

sledford

Marc, there are two possibilities for the phrase "gift of the Holy Spirit" a) A gift the Holy Spirit brings (the subject of the "gift" is something other than the Holy Spirit) - OR - b) The gift is the Holy Spirit itself (the subject of the "gift" is the Holy Spirit) I'll leave you with this and the...

sledford

I would like to take an excerpt from luke1's reasoning: Mark 16:15 (KJV) And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned. These verses really fortifies belief, for if...

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One very critical point of consideration regarding texts such as being quoted here involve what some consider technical apsects of language but truly are very basic, High School English level topics we've all been schooled in. 1) Are the contexts figurative or literal? Are the quotes from Revelation...

sledford

There is a beautiful statement Paul makes in his letter to the Ephesians: 4 but God, being rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us, 5 even when we were dead through our trespasses, made us alive together with Christ (by grace have ye been saved), I find Ephesians to be such a masterf...

sledford

First of all Sledford, how is it you declare that the Patriarchy dispensation ended at the cross, what was the condition of the Gentiles between Christ's death and Acts 10. Are we to assume that there was no safe haven for those who did not recieve the Gospel yet but were righteous, since the Gospe...

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Remember that LUKE said these things about Cornelius: Acts 10:1-3 There was a certain man in Caesarea called Cornelius, a centurion of what was called the Italian Regiment,2 a devout man and one who feared God with all his household, who gave alms generously to the people, and prayed to God always....

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There is far more internal evidence of the literal chronological definition of the word "began" to be the literal beginning of Peter's words than just Thayer's definition. One of the principles of word study is definition in context. Here are two additional supporting observations direct from contex...

sledford

Nice to see that this time have quoted what Thayer actually said concerning Acts 11:15 in the use of "began". "Acts xi. 15 (cf. x. 44)" cf. means to consult or refer to. So when deciding the meaning of "began" in this text Thayer says to "refer to" Acts 10:44. And there it demonstrates that the fal...

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3. What is the difference between an alien sinner and a devout man, righteous man, what is the difference between someone who does not aknowledge God at all and someone who like Cornelius who is righteous? I would like to ask a question that needs to be addressed before this. The text says in Acts ...

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As far as "began" in Acts 11:15 as described by Thayer please see the following site which contains his "full" defintion of the word: http://www.blueletterbible.org/tmp_dir/words/7/1151642890-5492.html That doesn't come anywhere close to resolving your mis-representation of how Thayer defines the w...

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I think I found the previous post you are referencing: When Luke writes that Peter rehearsed the events in orderly sequence it is not to be understood in a strict chronological order for according to Acts 11:13 those listening to him would have believed that Peter is just now being informed of the a...

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Cornelius did hear "the words" in order to be saved. They are found in Acts 10:34-43. In terms of Acts 11:4 and 15 I have already dealt with these two passages in another post. I couldn't help but notice you just simply ignored the points I brought up in my post. I guess it is just easier to say my...

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Marc, you have a very serious issue harmonizing your conclusion with what is specifically stated in Acts 11 in the recounting by Peter: 13 And he shewed us how he had seen an angel in his house, which stood and said unto him, Send men to Joppa, and call for Simon, whose surname is Peter; 14 Who shal...

sledford

Just a few simple observations from the context itself: First, the angel tells Cornelius that God has heard him but there is something for him to do: 4 And when he looked on him, he was afraid, and said, What is it, Lord? And he said unto him, Thy prayers and thine alms are come up for a memorial be...

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I would like to pose this topic for discussion and study. In case you may not know exactly what I refer to in this topic subject here's a readers digest version. God is perfectly just. Sin being an afront to God requires that it be punished in keeping with his just nature. Therefore in order to save...

sledford

I have some time available once more and was catching up on a few threads. This one caught my eye because of the terms involved. Can you define what you mean by objective and subjective faith and the relevance in context? I very much would like to hear your thoughts.

sledford

Your "point" of James 5:20 is frankly a complete non sequitur, an unrelated thought. But the sake of silent readers here is the quote of the context of James 5:20: 19 Brethren, if anyone among you wanders from the truth, and someone turns him back, 20 let him know that he who turns a sinner from the...

sledford

You wrote that the baptism with the Holy Spirit is not two different classes of people but one single class with two actions rendered. Thereby equating the two. To begin with even the moderataors of this forum disagree with your assertion: http://www.insearchoftruth.org/articles/one_baptism.html Fu...

sledford

Now that it has been made clear that salvation is by faith alone in Romans 4 I will address your misunderstanding of James. Let me be even more clear: no it has not been "made clear" at all. You continue to twist and rend scripture, mis-state and misquote me. I have addressed this issue in an earli...

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Marc, you have a very serious issue with how you read scripture. This latest post and supposed "conclusion" is really quite serious in it's flaws. You have created a "thread" of pairing two examples through the context of Matt 3:10-12, that is completely out of context and an utter fabrication. In a...

sledford

The context of James 1 is referring to physical life. This is seen in 1:21 where it refers to physical preservation not eternal salvation. James 1:21 reads as: 21 Therefore lay aside all filthiness and overflow of wickedness, and receive with meekness the implanted word, which is able to save your ...

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A key question to ask in addressing this subject: * Can I remove myself from God? Consider passages such as Eze 18:24 24 “But when a righteous man turns away from his righteousness and commits iniquity, and does according to all the abominations that the wicked man does, shall he live? All the right...

sledford

I'll say this as gently as I can. You are completely incorrect that James 1:15 is referring to a physical death. 13 Let no one say when he is tempted, “I am tempted by God”; for God cannot be tempted by evil, nor does He Himself tempt anyone. 14 But each one is tempted when he is drawn away by his o...

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James 2 is not even talking about eternal salvation (justification in the eyes of God) but is in reference to physical life and being justified in the eyes of people. You have again completely discarded the context with a super-imposed view of "works". James begins the context with the question: 14...

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You are introducing a non-sequitur into the discussion of John 6:28-29. Your super-imposed view of Romans 4 has forced you to change Jesus' words and meaning that the "works of God" is belief in Jesus (John 6:29). Your explanation of John 6 is based on an unfounded defintion that cannot be logically...

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Luke 18:18-23 18 Now a certain ruler asked Him, saying, ?Good Teacher, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?? 19 So Jesus said to him, ?Why do you call Me good? No one is good but One, that is, God. 20 You know the commandments: ?Do not commit adultery,? ?Do not murder,? ?Do not steal,? ?Do not ...

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Romans 4:1-5 1 What then shall we say that Abraham our father has found according to the flesh? 2 For if Abraham was justified by works, he has something to boast about, but not before God. 3 For what does the Scripture say? ?Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness.? 4 N...

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A simple question. Is belief a work?

John 6:28-29
28 Then they said to Him, "What shall we do, that we may work the works of God?"?
29 Jesus answered and said to them, "This is the work of God, that you believe in Him whom He sent."

sledford

I leave with these simple questions: When did the statment in Deuteronomy 25:5-10, chronologically occur in time? When was the pattern of Adam and Eve that Jesus quotes established? 4 And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and fe...

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I see that you have chosen to ignore what language requires by Jesus' use of the word therefore in the Matt 19 context and that the statement preceding that simple word establishes a basic definition and pattern for marriage to a time from the beginning creation, pre-dating the Old Law, or anything ...

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In order to find truth I typically first ask myself what the thing under consideration IS. From that we can then establish what meets that pattern and what does not. My understanding of scripture comes to these things of what the Lord's Supper IS: * Eating of the bread (1 Cor 11:24) and drinking of ...

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I perceive somewhere along the way that my responses are viewed as being angrily attacking (definition of a rant as stated in the conclusion of the last post). I can say in all honesty before God that I have not once written an angry word on this subject or towards you. I am indeed single-mindedly f...

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