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- Sat Oct 28, 2006 7:53 am
- Forum: Sin and Salvation
- Topic: THE CONTEXT OF CORNELIUS
- Replies: 79
- Views: 139792
1. John 7:39 - Unlike the time before Christ was glorified now the Holy Spirit permanently indwells the person who receives Him. Such were the case of the Gentiles before they were water baptized. 2. We can be saved without doing what God has "commanded". 1 John 2:1 says "you may not sin". That is a...
- Fri Oct 27, 2006 7:15 pm
- Forum: Sin and Salvation
- Topic: THE CONTEXT OF CORNELIUS
- Replies: 79
- Views: 139792
It wasn't until recently that I used "the gift of the Holy Spirit" as mentioned in Acts 10:45. This expression was dodged or if it was considered the meaning of it was changed despite what the several New Testament Greek authorities stated. Not one authority was given in opposition - that should sen...
- Fri Oct 27, 2006 3:38 pm
- Forum: Sin and Salvation
- Topic: THE CONTEXT OF CORNELIUS
- Replies: 79
- Views: 139792
- Fri Oct 27, 2006 3:12 pm
- Forum: Sin and Salvation
- Topic: THE CONTEXT OF CORNELIUS
- Replies: 79
- Views: 139792
Balaam does not apply for that took place before Christ was glorified when the "Spirit had not yet been given" (John 7:39). Peter did tell Cornelius what he "must do" but that does not necessitate that water baptism was necessary for salvation. And since they asked him to stay on for a few days even...
- Fri Oct 27, 2006 2:06 pm
- Forum: Sin and Salvation
- Topic: THE CONTEXT OF CORNELIUS
- Replies: 79
- Views: 139792
It is "your" commentary of Scripture that so far has NOT been backed up by any authoritative New Testament Greek scholars. By refusing to believe these New Testament Greek scholars your definition concerning "the gift of the Holy Spirit" has been defined. It consists as a clear denial of what they s...
- Fri Oct 27, 2006 11:26 am
- Forum: Sin and Salvation
- Topic: THE CONTEXT OF CORNELIUS
- Replies: 79
- Views: 139792
Yawn.... The Spirit being poured out on all flesh does not include beasts, birds and fish. I used this to show what your false argument would be reduced to. Your authoritative source is "your own" interpretation of what "you" believe the Greek words mean despite all the sources I cited. Still waitin...
- Thu Oct 26, 2006 6:43 pm
- Forum: Sin and Salvation
- Topic: THE CONTEXT OF CORNELIUS
- Replies: 79
- Views: 139792
These "men" are authoritative New Testament Greek scholars. I have provided several sources to back up my claim that "the gift of the Holy Spirit" refers to the same thing as used in both Acts 2:38 and 10:45. You have not provided one source. I would like to see sources that you can provide to back ...
- Thu Oct 26, 2006 2:15 pm
- Forum: Sin and Salvation
- Topic: THE CONTEXT OF CORNELIUS
- Replies: 79
- Views: 139792
Sledford, The gift of the Holy Spirit is the Holy Spirit. a. with the epexegetical gen. of the thing given, the Holy Ghost, Ac 2:38; 10:45 (Joseph Henry Thayer, Dorea, Greek-English Lexicon of the New Testament, page 161). b. In Acts 2:38 "the gift of the Holy Ghost", the clause is epexegetical, the...
- Wed Oct 25, 2006 10:29 pm
- Forum: Sin and Salvation
- Topic: THE CONTEXT OF CORNELIUS
- Replies: 79
- Views: 139792
- Wed Oct 25, 2006 6:16 am
- Forum: Sin and Salvation
- Topic: THE CONTEXT OF CORNELIUS
- Replies: 79
- Views: 139792
- Tue Oct 24, 2006 4:19 pm
- Forum: Sin and Salvation
- Topic: THE CONTEXT OF CORNELIUS
- Replies: 79
- Views: 139792
No one can be saved apart from the word of God even if they received the Holy Spirit? You are making a false dichotomy. Because people heard (and believed) the word of God proves that they received the Holy Spirit. You can't receive the Holy Spirit without the word of God. By receiving "the gift of ...
- Thu Aug 31, 2006 11:43 am
- Forum: Holy Spirit, Apostles, and Miracles
- Topic: The deity of the Holy Spirit (Jehovah's Witnesses)
- Replies: 1
- Views: 10682
The deity of the Holy Spirit (Jehovah's Witnesses)
Hey! The passage I employ to demonstrate the deity of the Holy Spirit is 1 Corinthians 2:10, 11 where it states that He has an omniscient mind (God). The Jehovah's Witnesses state that the Holy Spirit is simply a force and not a personal being. They will point out that He is referred to as an "it" i...
- Tue Aug 29, 2006 11:22 am
- Forum: Sin and Salvation
- Topic: Implications of Thief on the Cross: Saved by Faith Only?
- Replies: 70
- Views: 136014
- Sun Aug 13, 2006 12:08 pm
- Forum: Morality
- Topic: Divorce and remarriage
- Replies: 15
- Views: 35270
Hi Phebe, I believe that not only does Matthew 5:32 allow for divorce but it also allows the offending party to remarry any other partner. If it was allowed in the Old Testament (under the Law) then why would wouldn't it be allowed now that we are no longer under the Law but of grace? Matthew 5:32 r...
- Tue Aug 08, 2006 2:45 pm
- Forum: Morality
- Topic: Divorce and remarriage
- Replies: 15
- Views: 35270
Hi Phebe, How's it going. As with every doctrine we must consider "every" passage of Scripture for "the sum of Thy word is truth" (Psalms 119:160). Emphasize the word "sum". The passages listed show that divorce is not to take place but according to Matthew 5:32 there is an exception to this. God do...
- Tue Jul 25, 2006 5:20 am
- Forum: Sin and Salvation
- Topic: THE CONTEXT OF CORNELIUS
- Replies: 79
- Views: 139792
In terms of the gift of the Holy Spirit having the same meaning both in Acts 2:38 and 10:45 I have quoted Arndt and Gingrich, Thayer, and Vine. Here is one more: "In Ac. the Spirit is called the dorea of God in 2:38...10:45" (Gerhard Kittell, Theological Dictionary of the New Testament, Volume 2, pa...
- Fri Jul 14, 2006 4:20 pm
- Forum: Sin and Salvation
- Topic: THE CONTEXT OF CORNELIUS
- Replies: 79
- Views: 139792
As already demonstrated "the gift of the Holy Spirit" which necessitates the forgiveness of sins (salvation) in Acts 2:38 also signfies salvation in Acts 10:45 - before water baptism in Acts 10:48. a. The same Greek phrase b. By the same author c. In the same book d. In the same context (the theme o...
- Fri Jul 14, 2006 2:36 am
- Forum: Sin and Salvation
- Topic: THE CONTEXT OF CORNELIUS
- Replies: 79
- Views: 139792
In answer to your question, since they have not received salvation from God they are thus not righteous. In answer to your next question as to if Cornelius was a Patriarch see the ten definitons at: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/patriarch 1. Yes 2. No 3. No 4. No 5. No 6. No 7. No 8. No 9. ...
- Sun Jul 09, 2006 2:01 am
- Forum: Sin and Salvation
- Topic: THE CONTEXT OF CORNELIUS
- Replies: 79
- Views: 139792
I must apologize. I did not see that Thayer included 2 Corinthians 7:1 in the use of katharizo as meaning the same thing as Acts 15:9. Here Paul is speaking of himself and to the other Corinthians. So this word can be applied to those who are "already" Christians. Something else came to mind. In ter...
- Sat Jul 08, 2006 5:49 pm
- Forum: Sin and Salvation
- Topic: THE CONTEXT OF CORNELIUS
- Replies: 79
- Views: 139792
Not only has JSM17 shyed away from telling us if "all" the Gentiles with Cornelius were righteous before Peter arrived (Acts 10:24) but he has also avoided Peter's description of the present state of all the Gentiles he witnessed to in Acts 10 as being "purified" (Acts 15:9). From what I've been abl...
- Sat Jul 08, 2006 1:07 am
- Forum: Sin and Salvation
- Topic: THE CONTEXT OF CORNELIUS
- Replies: 79
- Views: 139792
A few more things... 1. John 4 (Acts 10:22) a. John wrote it b. The Holy Spirit inspired it c. The Lord Jesus does not correct her misunderstanding. I am referring to the Samaritan women at the well. Verse 10 - The Lord Jesus mentions "living water". Verses 11 and 12 - She assumes it is the H2O that...
- Fri Jul 07, 2006 8:35 pm
- Forum: Sin and Salvation
- Topic: THE CONTEXT OF CORNELIUS
- Replies: 79
- Views: 139792
If one has the gift of the Holy Spirit do they have the forgiveness of sins (Acts 2:38)? Yes or no? 2 Kings 5:18 (Acts 10:22) a. A man of God wrote it. a. The Holy Spirit inspired it. b. Elisha like Peter shows no sign of approval or disapproval of what he had heard. Is what Namaan said he was going...
- Fri Jul 07, 2006 12:24 pm
- Forum: Sin and Salvation
- Topic: THE CONTEXT OF CORNELIUS
- Replies: 79
- Views: 139792
JSM17- Already addressed: a. Friday June 30th, 2006 5:38am b. Tuesady July 4th, 2006 6:18pm c. Wednesday July 5th, 2006 11:55am sledford wrote: "The truth of the matter will stand on its own" a. If one receives "the gift of the Holy Spirit" they have "the forgiveness of sins" (Acts 2:38). b. Corneli...
- Thu Jul 06, 2006 9:01 pm
- Forum: Morality
- Topic: Divorce and remarriage
- Replies: 15
- Views: 35270
- Thu Jul 06, 2006 8:04 am
- Forum: Sin and Salvation
- Topic: THE CONTEXT OF CORNELIUS
- Replies: 79
- Views: 139792
- Wed Jul 05, 2006 12:55 pm
- Forum: Sin and Salvation
- Topic: THE CONTEXT OF CORNELIUS
- Replies: 79
- Views: 139792
As shown, Acts 13:16 and 17:17 shows that these Gentiles "feared God" but they were still in need of salvation. You didn't address these passages at all. You also didn't address how you would go about proving that "everyone" that was with Cornelius was also saved before Peter met them (Acts 10:24). ...
- Tue Jul 04, 2006 7:18 pm
- Forum: Sin and Salvation
- Topic: THE CONTEXT OF CORNELIUS
- Replies: 79
- Views: 139792
Hey! Now that it has been established that Cornelius did indeed hear the gospel message before he received "the gift of the Holy Spirit" (Acts 10:45) demonstrating that he already had "the forgiveness of sins" (Acts 2:38) before he was water baptized I would like to make several remarks about your p...
- Sat Jul 01, 2006 11:43 am
- Forum: Sin and Salvation
- Topic: THE CONTEXT OF CORNELIUS
- Replies: 79
- Views: 139792
1. My present day example showing that "began" can be used figurativelly was dodged. 2. Luke's recording of Peter saying he gave an "orderly account" when in fact it wasn't "strictly" chronological was dodged. 3. In terms of commentators who hold to the belief that the falling of the Holy Spirit occ...
- Sat Jul 01, 2006 12:56 am
- Forum: Sin and Salvation
- Topic: THE CONTEXT OF CORNELIUS
- Replies: 79
- Views: 139792
Let's take another look at Thayer in regards to your "the Holy Spirit fell just as Peter was getting the very first word out of his mouth" theory. In his definition of "began" as used in Acts 11:15 he cites several other texts along with it. This is under "2c". It reads that in these texts archomai ...
- Fri Jun 30, 2006 9:35 pm
- Forum: Sin and Salvation
- Topic: THE CONTEXT OF CORNELIUS
- Replies: 79
- Views: 139792
What are you talking about?! Is your mind that "water logged" that you can't understand that cf. means "refer to" ponting to Acts 10:44. Thayer states many passages where "archomia" is used and "then" he gives its "explanation" as to its meaning. Open your eyes and read one of the examples he gives ...
- Fri Jun 30, 2006 12:39 pm
- Forum: Sin and Salvation
- Topic: THE CONTEXT OF CORNELIUS
- Replies: 79
- Views: 139792
Nice to see that this time have quoted what Thayer actually said concerning Acts 11:15 in the use of "began". "Acts xi. 15 (cf. x. 44)" cf. means to consult or refer to. So when deciding the meaning of "began" in this text Thayer says to "refer to" Acts 10:44. And there it demonstrates that the fall...
- Fri Jun 30, 2006 6:38 am
- Forum: Sin and Salvation
- Topic: THE CONTEXT OF CORNELIUS
- Replies: 79
- Views: 139792
That is correct "they" said Cornelius was righteous. Nowhere does it say that God did. Matthew 16:22 - Matthew wrote it, Peter said it and the Holy Spirit inspired it. Is what the Holy Spirit inspired Matthew to write something that we would agree should have happened? Not only does Acts 11:14 demon...
- Fri Jun 30, 2006 12:29 am
- Forum: Sin and Salvation
- Topic: THE CONTEXT OF CORNELIUS
- Replies: 79
- Views: 139792
This is in response to the previous two posts. Cornelius was not saved before Peter met him. For Peter was to tell him words by which he "shall be" saved (Acts 11:14). If I said, "I shall go to the bakery" I wonder how many of us would conclude that I am "now" in the bakery? Furthermore, Acts 2:38 d...
- Thu Jun 29, 2006 1:50 pm
- Forum: Sin and Salvation
- Topic: THE CONTEXT OF CORNELIUS
- Replies: 79
- Views: 139792
- Thu Jun 29, 2006 12:53 pm
- Forum: Sin and Salvation
- Topic: THE CONTEXT OF CORNELIUS
- Replies: 79
- Views: 139792
Cornelius did hear "the words" in order to be saved. They are found in Acts 10:34-43. In terms of Acts 11:4 and 15 I have already dealt with these two passages in another post. I couldn't help but notice you just simply ignored the points I brought up in my post. I guess it is just easier to say my ...
- Thu Jun 29, 2006 2:32 am
- Forum: Sin and Salvation
- Topic: THE CONTEXT OF CORNELIUS
- Replies: 79
- Views: 139792
Just returned... All these expressions mean the same thing: a. To have the Holy Spirit "fall" upon you (Acts 10:44). b. To have the Holy Spirit "poured out" on you (Acts 10:45, Titus 3:6). c. To "receive" the Holy Spirit (Acts 10:47). d. To be "baptized" with the Holy Spirit (Acts 11:16). e. To be i...
- Mon Jun 05, 2006 6:25 am
- Forum: Sin and Salvation
- Topic: The conversion of Cornelius (baptism not necessary) - #3
- Replies: 77
- Views: 158956
The text says Cornelius needed to hear words whereby he "will be" saved. You have him saved and then saved again without ever being unsaved. Yes saved but... not really saved. Yawn...I have already explained Acts 11:4 and 11:15. You keep repeating the same thing without refuting what I have previous...
- Sun Jun 04, 2006 9:06 am
- Forum: Sin and Salvation
- Topic: The conversion of Cornelius (baptism not necessary) - #3
- Replies: 77
- Views: 158956
I've already explained both Acts 11:4 and 11:15 in a previuos post and nothing what I wrote was refuted. The Holy Spirit fell upon Cornelius as did it to the apostles in that now both were now indwelt with the Holy Spirit and since the Holy Spirit is God and God indwells is you that describes a save...
- Sat Jun 03, 2006 10:18 pm
- Forum: Sin and Salvation
- Topic: The conversion of Cornelius (baptism not necessary) - #3
- Replies: 77
- Views: 158956
Cornelius had the forgiveness of sins before he waas water baptized therefore Cornelius was already saved before he was water baptized. Cornelius was saved by both hearing the gospel and receiving the Holy Spirit. By receiving the Holy Spirit he was born of the Holy Spirit (John 3:8)....before he wa...
- Sat Jun 03, 2006 4:28 pm
- Forum: Sin and Salvation
- Topic: only belief is required for salvation
- Replies: 41
- Views: 80459
- Sat Jun 03, 2006 3:12 pm
- Forum: Sin and Salvation
- Topic: only belief is required for salvation
- Replies: 41
- Views: 80459
- Sat Jun 03, 2006 2:56 pm
- Forum: Sin and Salvation
- Topic: The conversion of Cornelius (baptism not necessary) - #3
- Replies: 77
- Views: 158956
- Sat Jun 03, 2006 2:51 pm
- Forum: Sin and Salvation
- Topic: ONE BAPTISM Is it Water or is it Spirit or both
- Replies: 12
- Views: 25762
Fact: Mark 16:9-20 is not in the earliest Greek manuscripts (among others) so is therefore too unreliable of a text to base any doctrine on. In terms of throwing them out who threw them in? That's right I will not agree that salvation came to the Jews and to the Gentiles in the exact same way becaus...
- Sat Jun 03, 2006 2:44 pm
- Forum: Sin and Salvation
- Topic: Are they really the same thing?
- Replies: 14
- Views: 28399
- Sat Jun 03, 2006 2:41 pm
- Forum: Sin and Salvation
- Topic: only belief is required for salvation
- Replies: 41
- Views: 80459
- Sat Jun 03, 2006 2:38 pm
- Forum: Sin and Salvation
- Topic: Are they really the same thing?
- Replies: 14
- Views: 28399
- Sat Jun 03, 2006 2:36 pm
- Forum: Sin and Salvation
- Topic: The conversion of Cornelius (baptism not necessary) - #3
- Replies: 77
- Views: 158956
Yes everyone is saved by grace. This is true. This grace allows a person to be saved but how one gets saved at this time varied. In terms of God not being a respector of persons this means that now the Gentiles can be saved. It is not meant exclusivelly for the Jews. I have shown how those in Acts 2...
- Sat Jun 03, 2006 2:15 pm
- Forum: Sin and Salvation
- Topic: only belief is required for salvation
- Replies: 41
- Views: 80459
- Sat Jun 03, 2006 2:13 pm
- Forum: Calvinism
- Topic: Once Saved...Always Saved!
- Replies: 36
- Views: 71036
In 2 Timothy 1:6 Timothy was told to "kindle afresh" the gift of God in him. This doesn't mean that Timothy's gift was now "snuffed out". Rathaer, he ought to keep the fire of his gift burning ever brighter (fresher) instead of neglecting it (1 Timothy 4:14). This equally applies to the Christian's ...
- Fri Jun 02, 2006 11:11 am
- Forum: Morality
- Topic: Divorce and remarriage
- Replies: 15
- Views: 35270
Divorce and remarriage
Is divorce allowable based on Matthew 5:32 and Matthew 19:9? Thayer defines "porneia" in these passages as "used of adultery" (Thayer's Greek English Lexicon). If so does the offending party have the biblical right to marry again?