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by m273p15c
Mon Nov 27, 2006 1:50 am
Forum: Evidences and Apologetics
Topic: Does Mark 16:9-20 belong in your Bible?
Replies: 35
Views: 86338

but, "The Scriptures cannot be broken"!

Does it belong there or does it need to be thrown out because of what Jesus said about baptism? Neither for it is too disputed of a text "no matter what is said in the text". Admittedly, I agree that it is poor debating form to use a disputed text as a primary point, simply because it allows your o...
by m273p15c
Mon Nov 27, 2006 1:30 am
Forum: Hermeneutics and Bible Authority
Topic: division and inference
Replies: 3
Views: 15001

very good question!

Two different points jumped out at me, including your main question: ... have been studying God's word. The question I am putting out is the determining of authority. I understand direct commands and apostolic examples. The question I have is the "inference". It seems to me this can be really end up...
by m273p15c
Fri Oct 06, 2006 5:36 pm
Forum: Morality
Topic: Divorce and remarriage
Replies: 15
Views: 36914

Agreed - There cannot be a conflict

I agree with Hugh here. There cannot be a conflict, because God cannot lie ( Titus 1:2 ). So, either the passages are in harmony, or God is not the ultimate author of these two texts! Somehow, I doubt Phebe is advocating the second position. So, Phebe, how would you harmonize Jesus' exception with P...
by m273p15c
Tue Oct 03, 2006 4:50 pm
Forum: Sin and Salvation
Topic: Implications of Thief on the Cross: Saved by Faith Only?
Replies: 70
Views: 137514

I am sorry, but I still do not understand what you believe regarding the ending and beginning of the covenants. Please allow me to rephrase my question: In reference to authority, do you believe that the Old Covenant had a relatively specific end point? If so, what? Do you believe that the New Coven...
by m273p15c
Tue Oct 03, 2006 7:33 am
Forum: Sin and Salvation
Topic: Implications of Thief on the Cross: Saved by Faith Only?
Replies: 70
Views: 137514

so, what do you believe?

It seems you were previously arguing that the New Covenant began as soon as Jesus bled: Galatians 3:15 "Brethen, I speak after the manner of man; Though it be but a man's covenant, yet if it be confirmed, no man disannulleth, or addeth thereto." The conditions were all sealed and ratified by the she...
by m273p15c
Mon Oct 02, 2006 12:29 pm
Forum: Miscellaneous
Topic: Legal complications in Polygynous Marriages
Replies: 29
Views: 67105

just one point?

Is that the only passage, or point upon which your case rests? I guess I thought there was more to it than that... I must confess that, since this was clearly an important passage to you, I imagined you would have a whole slew of passages containing commands and examples lined up to defend the pract...
by m273p15c
Mon Oct 02, 2006 12:23 pm
Forum: Miscellaneous
Topic: Legal complications in Polygynous Marriages
Replies: 29
Views: 67105

Re: Here, I think.

Hugh McBryde wrote:Levirate law, and the law that requires a man to marry the viring he seduced. I think I've already supplied them in this forum in another thread.
That seems kind of weak. Can't you do better than that?
by m273p15c
Mon Oct 02, 2006 11:42 am
Forum: Miscellaneous
Topic: Legal complications in Polygynous Marriages
Replies: 29
Views: 67105

where are your Scriptures?

I understand your concern, but my point is that these are all non-issues, if you follow God's pattern for marriage.

In regards to Scriptures, are you aware of any passages that condone multiple wives? Would you please provide them?
by m273p15c
Mon Oct 02, 2006 12:24 am
Forum: Morality
Topic: Divorce and remarriage
Replies: 15
Views: 36914

Wow! Lots of good questions here...

I think that there are three good questions here. Maybe they should be split into three threads, but please allow me to separately identify and address all three... Is there any exception to the law of "marriage for life"? I find the more I study, the more scripture seems to prohibit remarriage afte...
by m273p15c
Sun Oct 01, 2006 3:23 pm
Forum: Hermeneutics and Bible Authority
Topic: instrumental music in worship?
Replies: 16
Views: 47942

good points

Does the N.T. specifically say to use Musical instruments? It does say to use one instrument "The heart", to sing with the heart! If the bible is silent on any particular issue why do we feel obligated to fill in the blanks. ... If we were to add specific instruments to our worship than God would h...
by m273p15c
Sun Oct 01, 2006 3:04 pm
Forum: The Church
Topic: Bases for joining/separating oneself to a local church
Replies: 4
Views: 16657

upon what basis?

>JSM17: Upon what basis does one select a church with which to identify? I agree denominations are wrong, and we should ultimately use the Bible to establish authority for all that we practice as Christians ... So, what basis or characteristics does the Bible provide for identifying a church to join...
by m273p15c
Sun Oct 01, 2006 2:52 pm
Forum: Holy Spirit, Apostles, and Miracles
Topic: The deity of the Holy Spirit (Jehovah's Witnesses)
Replies: 1
Views: 11308

more arguments for the personality and deity of the H.Spirit

Here are a few more verses that associate both personal and divine characteristics with the Holy Spirit: He is equal with the Father and the Son He is spoken of as an equal by Jesus ( Matthew 28:18 ) Jesus labels Him as a comforter equal to Himself ( "another" - John 14:6 ) His name is used intercha...
by m273p15c
Sun Oct 01, 2006 2:17 pm
Forum: Miscellaneous
Topic: Legal complications in Polygynous Marriages
Replies: 29
Views: 67105

good point!

This sounds like a very good argument against polygyny. See what kinds of complications a persons exposes himself when he engages in polygyny? The ethical difficulties are endless! ... This shows great wisdom in the Lord's abandoning polygyny along with other patriarchal and Judaic practices, when H...
by m273p15c
Sun Oct 01, 2006 2:05 pm
Forum: Sin and Salvation
Topic: Implications of Thief on the Cross: Saved by Faith Only?
Replies: 70
Views: 137514

Re: implications of the thief on the cross, saved by faith

Please allow me to deal with these arguments in reverse chronological order: I would only like to add for reference: Colossians 2:12-14 "Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross"; Then John 19:31-33 ...
by m273p15c
Thu Aug 31, 2006 11:17 pm
Forum: Sin and Salvation
Topic: comment on using fear and hell to motivate Christians
Replies: 2
Views: 10118

good point - I almost agree completely

Thanks for your kind comments and suggestions. I agree with your thought and sentiment; however, I must respectfully disagree with its absoluteness, as I understood your point. Yes, fear is not the most noble motivation for the Christian. Neither, is it the most powerful. The Christian's strength is...
by m273p15c
Mon Aug 28, 2006 9:37 pm
Forum: Miscellaneous
Topic: your article regarding 'self' confidence
Replies: 4
Views: 14937

Ok, I understand where you are coming from now. Please allow me to give a little introductory background, correct some misconceptions, and answer your questions. This is a little long, but I wanted to make sure I thoroughly answered your questions. More could be said, so feel free to ask more about ...
by m273p15c
Mon Aug 28, 2006 9:21 pm
Forum: Miscellaneous
Topic: your article regarding 'self' confidence
Replies: 4
Views: 14937

come again?

I am sorry, but I don't understand how you reached that conclusion. Would you mind explaining how you derived that from the article on self-confidence? I would be happy to answer you question, if I understood it a little better.
by m273p15c
Wed Aug 23, 2006 12:46 pm
Forum: Evidences and Apologetics
Topic: What if ... SeaHenge?
Replies: 1
Views: 10488

what if, indeed

Your theory is based on lots of assumptions and speculations. What evidence necessarily suggests these conclusions? Asked another way, what alternative theories explain the evidence equally as well, possibly better? Why not consider such theories? Our web-site is focused on ultimate truths. I guess ...
by m273p15c
Mon Aug 21, 2006 11:16 am
Forum: Sin and Salvation
Topic: Paul was given a special gospel
Replies: 2
Views: 9925

What does the Scriptures teach?

This is an interesting position, but I do not think it is consistent with Scripture. Paul was indeed a special or unique apostle. Here are few passages that note some of his unique characteristics: Persecuted the Church - Paul's original name was Saul ( Acts 13:9 ). Before Saul was converted, he bel...
by m273p15c
Thu Aug 10, 2006 1:15 am
Forum: Evidences and Apologetics
Topic: What if?
Replies: 4
Views: 14660

Since you did not provide any tangible evidence to your wild claims, this will be the last response from me. Generally, I would ignore such emails; however, I am greatly disturbed by your lack of rational thinking. Your thoughts are not rooted in any reality but your own. God is rational being, who ...
by m273p15c
Thu Aug 10, 2006 12:51 am
Forum: Evidences and Apologetics
Topic: What if?
Replies: 4
Views: 14660

If you granted me that many assumptions, I could spin you any story you want. If you would like for us to seriously consider your proposition, you must put forth evidence or legitimate appeals to established Scripture ( Galatians 1:6-8; I Corinthians 14:37-38; I John 4:5-6 ). Requests for conversion...
by m273p15c
Mon Aug 07, 2006 12:05 am
Forum: Holy Spirit, Apostles, and Miracles
Topic: Do we have prophets today?
Replies: 2
Views: 14072

What does the Scriptures say?

I must kindly disagree with you here. From previous passages we have examined, we see that one generally received miraculous gifts, including prophecy, by the apostles laying their hands on people ( Acts 8:12-20 ). However, Paul was the last of the apostles and the last to see the Lord, even in a vi...
by m273p15c
Sat Aug 05, 2006 2:46 pm
Forum: Holy Spirit, Apostles, and Miracles
Topic: spiritual gifts, tongues, God-language and salvation ???
Replies: 1
Views: 12308

Yes and No - Depends on the context you have in mind...

Here are my answers to your questions: "do spiritual gifts exsess today?" - Yes and No. Yes, the Lord, through the Spirit, has bestowed many types of gifts upon the church. Some are miraculous; other gifts are not miraculous: For as we have many members in one body, but all the members do not have t...
by m273p15c
Sat Aug 05, 2006 1:02 pm
Forum: Evidences and Apologetics
Topic: I am very angry!
Replies: 3
Views: 7279

Re: I am very angry!

Just because it can be said, that does not make it true. As you observed, it too often depends upon a person's desire. Ultimately, people who find the truth, succeed in part because they desire truth above all else.

If you wish to discuss the objective evidence, please let me know.
by m273p15c
Sat Aug 05, 2006 12:23 pm
Forum: Evidences and Apologetics
Topic: I am very angry!
Replies: 3
Views: 7279

I am very angry!

I can see how you might feel that way, if you believe that Christianity is a lie and baseless myth used to scam the world. But, what if Jesus really did live a perfect life, fulfill ancient prophecy, die innocently on the cross, rise from the dead, return to heaven, and establish the church as His e...
by m273p15c
Tue Jul 04, 2006 1:59 am
Forum: Holy Spirit, Apostles, and Miracles
Topic: Did I see a Vision?
Replies: 1
Views: 12920

In light of Scriptures, is there another explanation?

I must admit that I have been troubled as to how to exactly answer this question; therefore, I have hesitated in answering your question. Please permit me to be straightforward now: I have no doubt that you believe you saw a vision or a spirit. However, I am persuaded that some other explanation unk...
by m273p15c
Tue Jul 04, 2006 1:04 am
Forum: Evidences and Apologetics
Topic: alleged discrepancies of the Bible
Replies: 9
Views: 26079

Paul's trip to Jerusalem

Regarding the supposed contradiction where Luke omits recording Paul's time spend in Arabia, please consider the points established in the last post. Just because an author omits certain incidents, we should not assume that the author was unaware and mistakenly overlooked recording such incidents. I...
by m273p15c
Tue Jul 04, 2006 12:33 am
Forum: Evidences and Apologetics
Topic: alleged discrepancies of the Bible
Replies: 9
Views: 26079

the flight to Egypt

Regarding the alleged discrepancy concerning the ordering of events surrounding Jesus' birth, please consider another answer from Haley's book: Christ's infancy, -- order of events. Matt. ii. 1-23 <--> A different order. Luke ii. 4-39. It is objected by Strauss ( New Life of Jesus , ii. 91. See, als...
by m273p15c
Mon Jul 03, 2006 11:39 pm
Forum: Evidences and Apologetics
Topic: alleged discrepancies of the Bible
Replies: 9
Views: 26079

"the smallest of all seeds on earth"

I believe the evidence supports the Bible to be the inerrant word of God. Furthermore, to believe anything significantly less would be to accuse God of either carelessness or weakness. Although the Bible is not a science book, whenever it speaks on any topic, even science, we should expect it to do ...
by m273p15c
Mon Jul 03, 2006 11:03 pm
Forum: Evidences and Apologetics
Topic: alleged discrepancies of the Bible
Replies: 9
Views: 26079

"when Abiathar was High Priest"

First, you should know that these are not new questions or recent discoveries. Atheists and agnostics have been floating these questions for years. Although they have been answered several times, very well by many different people, there is no answer worded well enough to convince the prejudiced, un...
by m273p15c
Wed Jun 21, 2006 8:45 am
Forum: The Church
Topic: The Word "Church" Is Not In the Bible
Replies: 8
Views: 25139

Yes, I believe Max King came from Ohio, and his followers have accepted the label of "preterist". My personal experience is that they constitute a very small portion among those who wear the Lord's name -- I would guess easily less than 5%; however, that says nothing to the correctness of the doctri...
by m273p15c
Wed Jun 21, 2006 12:25 am
Forum: The Church
Topic: The Word "Church" Is Not In the Bible
Replies: 8
Views: 25139

let's look at the passage and lexicons again

I am sorry for any interuption I may have caused the conversation. Don't worry about the interruption. Considering that the last post was over 7 months old, I don't think you were interrupting anything. ;) The context of what Paul writes is for the purpose of them being diligent, you showed that in...
by m273p15c
Mon Jun 19, 2006 10:48 pm
Forum: The Church
Topic: The Word "Church" Is Not In the Bible
Replies: 8
Views: 25139

straining at gnats and swallowing camels...

I commend anyone who seeks to better understand any word rather than misapply a passage to correct someone. Jeff, I appreciate your earnestness in correction, but I believe you have misjudged both my intention and the import of the quoted passage. Rather than simply react to your concerns, please a...
by m273p15c
Sat May 20, 2006 5:18 pm
Forum: Morality
Topic: about the article on women
Replies: 3
Views: 15399

depends on how you define "equal"

Hello Maureen, These are very good questions, and they certainly demand worthy clarification of the article. The article then goes on to speak about how the roles of men and women, while different, are completely equal. ... So my question here is rather simple, are men and women equal, can a woman d...
by m273p15c
Tue May 09, 2006 9:40 pm
Forum: Sin and Salvation
Topic: apostasy, blasphemy of Holy Spirit, baptism, HSpirit leading
Replies: 19
Views: 19314

baptized for the remission of sins

I think it is crucial to establish this first... First, it is important that you act based on what you understand the Bible to teach, not any particular local church ( Matthew 15:1-9 ). What do you believe the Bible teaches about baptism and salvation? Second, I would encourage you to consider that ...
by m273p15c
Tue May 09, 2006 9:31 pm
Forum: Morality
Topic: about the article on women
Replies: 3
Views: 15399

the difference was place and format

This is a very good question. Thanks for bringing it up! Truly Deborah taught men in the Old Testament. Does this contradict the command given in the New Testament? Since Paul used the Old Law as partial justification for his directive, we must conclude that Deborah, Anna, and other Old Testament pr...
by m273p15c
Mon May 08, 2006 7:05 pm
Forum: Sin and Salvation
Topic: apostasy, blasphemy of Holy Spirit, baptism, HSpirit leading
Replies: 19
Views: 19314

saved before or after baptism?

Thanks for the background. I have one more question - About your baptism -- Were you baptized in water by Jesus' authority for the remission of sins? Do you believe you were saved before baptism? Or, as a result of baptism?

This is essential for me to answer accurately.

Thanks,

m273p15c
by m273p15c
Thu May 04, 2006 8:17 pm
Forum: Sin and Salvation
Topic: apostasy, blasphemy of Holy Spirit, baptism, HSpirit leading
Replies: 19
Views: 19314

When were you saved? When were your sins forgiven?

You are correct. You absolutely should seek and ask for forgiveness of sins. I did not intend to discourage that important action and direction you are taking. But, let's back up for just a second - kind of "first things first", if you will: Let's talk about conversion, if you don't mind. Clearly yo...
by m273p15c
Thu May 04, 2006 9:34 am
Forum: Sin and Salvation
Topic: apostasy, blasphemy of Holy Spirit, baptism, HSpirit leading
Replies: 19
Views: 19314

Holy Spirit leading and communicating directly

I am very glad to hear that you assembled last night with other Christians. That is very good! ( Hebrews 10:24-25 ) I praise you for this good step!! However, I must confess that I am concerned that you believe the Holy Spirit is communicating directly with you. Admittedly, many people share this be...
by m273p15c
Wed May 03, 2006 12:47 pm
Forum: Sin and Salvation
Topic: apostasy, blasphemy of Holy Spirit, baptism, HSpirit leading
Replies: 19
Views: 19314

Re: fall from Grace

no problem - glad to help
by m273p15c
Wed May 03, 2006 11:22 am
Forum: Sin and Salvation
Topic: apostasy, blasphemy of Holy Spirit, baptism, HSpirit leading
Replies: 19
Views: 19314

Re: fall from Grace

One commits an unpardonable sin by permanently turning his back to the Spirit's work, either the revelation or the confirmation of the Word of God ( Mark 3:22, 28-30 ). As long as your heart, your conscience remains sensitive to the Bible, and you do not dismiss God's Word, you should be ok in regar...
by m273p15c
Wed May 03, 2006 9:45 am
Forum: Sin and Salvation
Topic: apostasy, blasphemy of Holy Spirit, baptism, HSpirit leading
Replies: 19
Views: 19314

Re: fall from Grace

Thanks for the explanation! Did you know the "sinner's prayer" is not to be found anywhere in the Bible ?! Sure, many preachers talk like you can turn to some verse and find it, but it is simply not there! This doctrine is a necessary component of popular human traditions, but it is not consistent w...
by m273p15c
Tue May 02, 2006 3:13 pm
Forum: Sin and Salvation
Topic: apostasy, blasphemy of Holy Spirit, baptism, HSpirit leading
Replies: 19
Views: 19314

Re: blasphemy of the Holy Spirit and Bible conversion

First, I fear that part of your uncertainty may be because you have not adhered to the Bible pattern for conversion. I do not know, but I am concerned based on some of your previous statements. If this needs to be corrected, then you will not find the security you desire, simply because your convers...
by m273p15c
Tue May 02, 2006 7:49 am
Forum: Sin and Salvation
Topic: apostasy, blasphemy of Holy Spirit, baptism, HSpirit leading
Replies: 19
Views: 19314

Re: blasphemy of the Holy Spirit

In brief, the "sin against the Holy Spirit" relates to those who understand and reject the work of the Spirit, revelation of truth. These are people who fully know the truth and turn away from it. Notice that is impossible to "renew them". It is not impossible for them to be renewed. As illustration...
by m273p15c
Mon May 01, 2006 11:09 pm
Forum: Sin and Salvation
Topic: apostasy, blasphemy of Holy Spirit, baptism, HSpirit leading
Replies: 19
Views: 19314

fall from Grace

This is a very good and important question! Thanks for asking it. I pray this answer will be helpful to you in understanding God's revelation on this applicable point. You should know that our feelings are little to no indication of our true spiritual status before God. In fact, our feelings can be ...
by m273p15c
Thu Apr 20, 2006 12:44 am
Forum: Holy Spirit, Apostles, and Miracles
Topic: Are you getting messages directly from spirit?
Replies: 2
Views: 15470

color me "skeptic"

I did a little research on Google, and apparently the specific proposition relates to a spiritual nudging, which is supposed to heighten spiritual awareness, possibly even communicating an intended direction. It seems to be an almost Eastern belief, not associated with Christianity or the Holy Spiri...
by m273p15c
Wed Apr 19, 2006 11:15 pm
Forum: Holy Spirit, Apostles, and Miracles
Topic: sharing the knowlage
Replies: 2
Views: 18312

how can you add to completion? improve on perfection?

“The words and the sentences in the Holy Bible are meant to pass on certain knowledge of truth. However, this knowledge is part of the truth, and does not reflect the sum of the truth needed for our Salvation.” This correspondent offers to provide what is lacking in the Bible. However, the Bible le...
by m273p15c
Fri Apr 14, 2006 1:29 pm
Forum: Introduction
Topic: m273p15c
Replies: 0
Views: 11995

m273p15c

Who am I? Here is the requested information introducing myself, plus some additional info: Where did you grow up? I grew up in the Southeast United States in a very conservative and traditional community. I have traveled overseas, and spent years in other cultures, but I am undeniably most influence...
by m273p15c
Thu Apr 13, 2006 8:35 am
Forum: Morality
Topic: Polygyny: Can a man Scripturally have multiple wives?
Replies: 52
Views: 672653

it does indeed depend on perspective...

These verses specifically prohibit a woman from having two husbands. There are no equivalent verses prohibiting a man from having two wives. Oddly, these verses are from the NT. Was this a problem then? Were women in the NT trying to emulate the rights of men by having additional husbands? Some typ...
by m273p15c
Wed Apr 12, 2006 3:09 pm
Forum: Morality
Topic: Polygyny: Can a man Scripturally have multiple wives?
Replies: 52
Views: 672653

I have said all that I can say

Hugh, you are all over the place. Introducing things that are only confusing the point. (I appreciate your opinions, especially clearly marking them as such, but I am focused on 1) the truth 2) salvation (mine and yours) and 3) unity.) Actually, a breach of faithfulness. And it is not my definition ...