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2 Tim 2:14-17 Remind them of these things, charging them before the Lord not to strive about words to no profit, to the ruin of the hearers.15 Be diligent to present yourself approved to God, a worker who does not need to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.16 But shun profane and idle b...

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This question probably seems scary to some because the truth is that we all are doing, saying, acting, and worshipping and teaching different things and the last thing that people want to deal with is that they may be wrong and have to change to please God. But this is what Paul had to do, this is w...

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I would be delighted to share this information with you and whoever else may find it interesting, I certainly did when I stumbled accross it. I teach a Wens. class on Galatians and have been for about 6 months now, and one thing that kept sticking out at me was the use of the word faith in contrast ...

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How many times have you read the word faith and it had the definite article in front of it? What do you think this means, it means that the faith talked about in that context is not your faith but the faith, the gospel. In the newer translations they remove the definite article because it goes again...

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Because of Luther and a few others , men have been on a rampage to remove what our Lord has plainly stated about Baptism.

He who believes and is baptized shall be saved. Mk. 16:16

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Can we all be different yet part of the same church in which Christ died for?

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When you see peoples motivation in why "They want their beer" you begin to see why it is not good thing to tell the world, because we are to set examples not stumbling blocks. Why would someone want to alter their mind if God gave it to you the way it is. Drinking is most of the time self ambition, ...

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Here are some examples of Abrahams workless faith: Careful study of verses Romans 4:1-8 reveals that Paul discusses the Justification of Abraham as referred to in Genesis 15:6. At the time this statement was made Abraham was already (and hadbeen for many years) a devouted believer in God and followe...

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As I suspected the syllogism you sent to me is guilty of a four-term fallacy. Remember, there must be three and only three terms, each used twice to have a valid (in the right form) syllogism. There are other rules that apply even after the first one is in place. Such as distributed terms and whethe...

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Marc is wrong about this topic and refuses to see how God truly works in our lifes after one is truly saved, yes one must truly be saved before one can choose to remove himself from God. Before one must worry himself about falling from the faith "Apostacia", one must be saved. If you are interested ...

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Faith and Works But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness. (Romans 4:5). Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only. (James 2:24). Are we saved by grace? Absolutely. Can we in any way earn or mer...

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Fact: Mark 16:9-20 is not in the earliest Greek manuscripts (among others) so is therefore too unreliable of a text to base any doctrine on. In terms of throwing them out who threw them in? Who threw them in, God did!!!!!!!!!!!! Do you reall think that God ended the Gospel of Mark this way: Mark 16...

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Yes Marc those on the day of Pentecost who had been alien sinners who crucified Christ who called out to Peter and said what must we do had recieved the gift of the H.S only after they had forgiveness of sins. Cornelius was a man devouted to God, one who feared Him and worked righteousness and was a...

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Can a man be saved without the Gospel? Cornelius and his household would be told words in which they could be saved, the Holy Spirit was poured out on them before they were told these words, it was at the beginning of his sermon that the H.S. was given. Acts 15 has already shown us that the Jews wou...

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Acts 11:4 4 But Peter explained it to them in order from the beginning, saying NKJV Peter explains to them the order of things, why dod you say it is not important if Luke says that Peter explained to them them the oreder of things. Acts 11:14-16 '15 And as I began to speak, the Holy Spirit fell upo...

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a. If one has received the gift of the Holy Spirit then thye have the forgivneess of sins (Acts 2:38). b. Cornelius received the gift of the Holy Spirit in Acts 10:45 before he was water baptized in Acts 10:48. c. Therefore Cornelius already had the forgiveness of sins before he was water baptized....

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What does it profit, my brethren, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can faith save him? NKJV Answer the question for James, can that faith save Him? Yes or No? It is a closed question it deserves a yes or a no, you will not answer it no without an explaination doing away with you...

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Well if we could establish the fact that these things are not all thing, that they are different points of obedienc, then we are on are way to coming to an understanding that salvation is not by faith alone. That we can agree that it is Faith Repentance Confession, and of course we probably will nev...

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So one must be born of water which is Spirit Its not so much that it is reduntant , but does not make any sense, many aspects that Christ spoke about that had not yet been introduced, the Spirit would not have been given for some time ,yet Christ spoke about Him with the women at the well. Does thi...

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Are these things that you do or not?

If they are then, those things that you do are required for salvation, so if you do not do them then you cannot be saved and if that is the case then your salvation is conditional on whether or not you are obedient to the words of God.

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Rom 4:5-6 But to him who does not work but believes on Him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is accounted for righteousness, NKJV So you think that this passage teaches that one is saved by faith alone without any other acts of obedience towards God? Where is the remission of sins, how is it conn...

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Lets get to the point, Does one today have to believe, repent, confess in order to be saved, are they the same thing for you and I today?

Say I believe in Christ yet I have not understood Godly sorrow and have not come to repentance yet, am I saved if I have not repented yet believed?

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I guess if it fit you theory it wouldn't be a problem, but since it doesn't we will throw it out, I guess all the Greek scholars and God couldn't get it out of the texts, just remember that this is synoptic with the Great commission found in the other Gospels. The problem truly lies in the idea that...

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That is a good point concerning a Gentile who is told directly to be baptized for the remission of sin. I could not think of one, but show me one passage that tells you that either a Jew or Gentile to believe for the remission of sin only.

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Here Peter gives his defence for what happened to the Gentiles and how it ties in with what happened to the Jews, notice that Peter said that they would be saved just like them, Acts 2 and Acts 10 are in parallel. Acts 15:8-11 8 So God, who knows the heart, acknowledged them by giving them the Holy ...

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Quench NT:4570 sbennumi (sben'-noo-mee); a prolonged form of an apparently primary verb; to extinguish (literally or figuratively): KJV - go out, quench. Either one is a Christian or he is not, Christ spoke of those in the the vine or branch, never have those who were not Christians ever been a part...

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a) Peter would speak words in which they would be saved. b) as Peter began to speak the Holy Spirit fell upon them. c) The Holy Spirit was not a sign of their salvation because Peter did not speak the things in which they would be saved, he had just began speaking when the Spirit was given. Which wa...

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In Acts 11 Peter tells us that as he began to speak the things in which they would be saved by the H.S. fell upon them, so in concluding with your idea with your syllogism, these Gentiles were saved before they even heard the message in order to be saved, therefore H.S. was not given for salvation a...

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NICE TRY "IT IS ONLY A PLAY ON WORDS" WORK IS WHAT GOD CALLS US TO DO, IF YOU HAVE FAITH AND NO WORKS YOUR FAITH IS DEAD, WHO HAS A DEAD FAITH ? THOSE WHO WILL NOT GO BEYOND JUST BELIEF, WHICH ACCORDING TO YOU IS THE SAME THING AS REPENTANCE AND CONFESSION. WHICH I AM SURE THAT THOSE WHO ARE READING...

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I GUESS YOU BELIEVE THAT CHRIST WAS WRONG WHEN HE SAID THAT THOSE WHO DO NOT PRODUCE FRUIT WILL BE CUT OFF. ARE YOU A BRANCH ARE YOU PART OF CHRIST? IF YOU DO NOT THE THINGS HE SAID THEN YOU WILL BE REMOVED. GOD LOVES ALL BUT GOD WILL NOT TOLERATE A CHRISTIAN WHO CHOSSES TO BE HABITUALLY DISOBEDIENT...

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THE LORD NEVER SAID HE WHO BELIEVES AND PARTAKES OF THE LORD'S SUPPER SHALL BE SAVED, HE SAID HE WHO BELIEVES AND IS BAPTIZED SHALL BE SAVED. MARK 16:15, 16

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Fine, since you believe that one must do works that God requires even though they will not justify you here is the one work that will - beleif." This is your statement not mine, belief is something that we do, it is work, are you a puppet that God pulls the strings for you and believes for you. You...

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In Acts 6 they were men full of the H.S yet the Apostles laid their hands on them why, so that they could recieve the power to work miracles. Acts 6:8 8 And Stephen, full of grace and power , was performing great wonders and signs among the people. NASU Did Stephen have this power before he was chos...

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Acts 26:24-29 24 While Paul was saying this in his defense, Festus said in a loud voice, "Paul, you are out of your mind!Your great learning is driving you mad." 25 But Paul said, "I am not out of my mind, most excellent Festus, but I utter words of sober truth. 26 "For the king knows about these ma...

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Rom 11:17-24 17 But if some of the branches were broken off, and you, being a wild olive, were grafted in among them and became partaker with them of the rich root of the olive tree, 18 do not be arrogant toward the branches; but if you are arrogant, remember that it is not you who supports the root...

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Rom 11:17-24 17 But if some of the branches were broken off, and you, being a wild olive, were grafted in among them and became partaker with them of the rich root of the olive tree, 18 do not be arrogant toward the branches; but if you are arrogant, remember that it is not you who supports the root...

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I'm still waiting for a response on "the gift of the Holy Spirit". If one has "the gift of the Holy Spirit" then they have "the forgiveness of sins" (Acts 2:38). Did Cornelius receive "the gift of the Holy Spirit" in Acts 10:45 before he was water baptized in Acts 10:48? I will say yes that Corneli...

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You infer that in which is not implied by explicit statement talking about these various items. Since you stand by your fathers docrtine (reformers) you must do all that is possible to do away with any works leading to salvation , so you must take repentance, confession, and baptism and find there n...

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Please show me then the passage that teaches that water baptism is only an outward sign of an inward grace! Show me the passage that teaches that water baptism is optional to obedience to God, because if it isn't optional then it is required? Tell me what passages in the N.T. that say baptism or bap...

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Just because I do not see a passage the way you do does not mean I have not given a serious thought or try. I have looked at Romans 8 many times, even today I realized that Paul says "Who" and then proceeds to talk about things and not a person. Did you notice that these things are all external. The...

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Romans 8:35 Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword? 8:36 As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter. 8:37 Nay, in all these things we ar...

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So the N.T. Pattern for all today is that One believes which incompasses repentance and confession, in which one receives the H.S baptism, (saved), then as a proclamation to this salvation in Christ one is water baptized.

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It is truly a tragedy that so many Christian people labor under the illusion that it is impossible for them ever to be lost. Unfortunately, though, the Calvinistic dogma of “once-saved, always-saved,” has infected the brotherhood of Christ - at least practically, if not intellectually. It is a grim ...

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Then what baptism is Christ talking about in the great commission?When you go into the world teaching and baptizing how do you do this? Why would John the baptist say that Christ baptizes with the Holy Spirit and then tell His apostles to go and baptize?

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That is a far stretch of the imagination.

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If I stand by the idea that because a passage does not mention an aspect of salvation then it is not required. If a passage says we are saved by love then does that mean that the blood of Christ does not cleanse us. If a passage says that baptism does now save you, then you will assume that one does...

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It has been said in some of the posts that belief, repentance and confession are all the same, that they all fall under the scope of belief, when one believes, he is repenting, confessing. Therefore their argument is justified in there minds for salvation by faith alone.

Are these things the same?

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What is the one baptism of Ephesians 4 and how does it parallel with the baptism of the great commission?

How do we go into the world and baptize with this one baptism?

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Are you a member of a denomination? Why, who are you divided from?

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In the bible does God show use that we have no choice, when it come to sin or salvation?

Are all matters concerning these two items unconditional, do we have control over sin, do we have control over salvation?

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Are they really the same thing?

ONE BAPTISM Is it Water or is it Spirit or both

Are you divided?

Do we have a choice? Or, is salvation unconditional?

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