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by JSM17
Mon Jul 23, 2007 7:55 pm
Forum: Morality
Topic: drinking wine?
Replies: 20
Views: 42180

Very well mister Tipton, I will bother you no longer about this matter, perhaps we can talk about speaking in tongues or something?
by JSM17
Sun Jul 22, 2007 5:04 pm
Forum: Morality
Topic: drinking wine?
Replies: 20
Views: 42180

Often efforts are made to justify the light intake or consumption of alcoholic beverages based on the KJV rendering of Paul. The claim is advanced that since Paul places emphisis and on "excess", the imbibing of alcoholic beverages in lesser quantities is permissible. The conclusion is not warranted...
by JSM17
Sun Jul 22, 2007 7:10 am
Forum: Morality
Topic: drinking wine?
Replies: 20
Views: 42180

Notice the text of John 2:9, 10 “When the ruler of the feast had tasted the water that was made wine, and knew not whence it was: (but the servants which drew the water knew;) the governor of the feast called the bridegroom, And saith unto him, Every man at the beginning doth set forth good wine; an...
by JSM17
Sat Jul 21, 2007 7:02 pm
Forum: Morality
Topic: drinking wine?
Replies: 20
Views: 42180

Facts are facts, if we are going to talk about whether somethings is permitable, we should concider the scriptural conscequences of how we will affect other Christians. I didn't think I had to start another thread just to state the negative outcomes and affects of drinking. I still would like to kno...
by JSM17
Sat Jul 21, 2007 4:27 pm
Forum: Morality
Topic: drinking wine?
Replies: 20
Views: 42180

Where in scripture do you find a positive notion of drinking wine? Jesus in John ch.2 turned water into wine, is Jesus now a bartender? After all these people drank all the wine that had been set out before this miracle, they must have been ripped because then Jesus turns 120 Gallons of water into w...
by JSM17
Sat Jul 21, 2007 6:54 am
Forum: Morality
Topic: drinking wine?
Replies: 20
Views: 42180

First of all the "wine" of the bible in the first century is not the same wine that people drink today. This is a fact that can be concluded after a little investigation. However most who advocate such bad habits would not take the time to investigate that. People like to say that there is nothing w...
by JSM17
Tue Jul 10, 2007 6:22 pm
Forum: Sin and Salvation
Topic: Long studies or just preach the plan of salvation or both?
Replies: 1
Views: 8879

Long studies or just preach the plan of salvation or both?

Since it has been slow, I thought I would pose a question about evangelism to you who are check to see if anything is going on. This question could take us in many avenues depending on who answers. When talking with a person about Christ, specifically teaching about obedience to the gospel, there is...
by JSM17
Wed Jul 04, 2007 9:56 pm
Forum: The Church
Topic: Widowed Elders
Replies: 11
Views: 20570

I believe you are right m273p15c, if it says it we should follow it, I just want to make sure that we are seeing it the way Paul wrote it. If he is talking about polygamy Pauls point would be that God wants a man that only takes one women not two or three. If the women dies does this make him not a ...
by JSM17
Wed Jul 04, 2007 4:20 pm
Forum: The Church
Topic: Widowed Elders
Replies: 11
Views: 20570

A one women man, does the dead wife disqualify a man that has served as an elder? A man that faithly serves the church as an elder with a wife and that wife dies does this make the man a no women man? Or is he still a man that had one women. Have you ever considered that polygamy was a problem in th...
by JSM17
Fri Jun 29, 2007 2:00 pm
Forum: Sin and Salvation
Topic: James verses Paul
Replies: 4
Views: 16217

Some time ago I wrote this outline. The reason I wrote it was because of the very ideas that Mel is holding to. I know it is long but this issue is important and deserves the space. I hope it can help people that sruggle with the ideas of faith and works. Welcome Mel it is good to have you with us. ...
by JSM17
Mon May 21, 2007 6:50 pm
Forum: The Church
Topic: TWO CUPS?
Replies: 1
Views: 7671

TWO CUPS?

In the gospel account of Luke, when Jesus institutes the Lord's Supper, you have reference to two cups, why is this? Some say that the first cup refers to the last cup of the tradition of Passover, some say that Jesus instituted the Lord's Supper with two cups. What says you? Why do the other gospel...
by JSM17
Mon Mar 19, 2007 6:26 pm
Forum: Sin and Salvation
Topic: Challenge regarding the duration of hell
Replies: 1
Views: 9877

If you go to this gentleman's web-site this is what you will find: Ultimate Reconciliation in Christ What is Christian Universalism? Christian universalism is a belief in the simple Bible truth that Jesus Christ is the "Lamb who takes away the sin of the world." He is the promised Messiah of whom th...
by JSM17
Mon Mar 19, 2007 5:59 pm
Forum: Sin and Salvation
Topic: What is Hades?
Replies: 14
Views: 33570

Eph 4:9-10 9(Now this, "He ascended" -- what does it mean but that He also first descended into the lower parts of the earth?10 He who descended is also the one who ascended far above all the heavens, that He might fill all things.) NKJV I am sure that we can agree that when Paul stated that Christ...
by JSM17
Wed Feb 28, 2007 6:19 am
Forum: Sin and Salvation
Topic: no hell? no eternal punishment?
Replies: 33
Views: 66643

Your biblical proof is found where?

I am not sure what this "Let God Be Truep.119" is. Are we to know what this means, maybe you could explain your statement in greater detail.

You make a statement without giving anyone proof of your statement.
by JSM17
Wed Feb 21, 2007 6:50 am
Forum: Evidences and Apologetics
Topic: Evidence of design in the human body
Replies: 18
Views: 31890

If I may I would like to say just a few things in light of the "PHILOSOPHY" of evolution. 1. I always like to ask a evolutionist about "DNA", that seems to be a troubling matter for them. 2. Since Darwin is called the father of evolution, why is it that he himself denounces his own beliefs by statin...
by JSM17
Mon Feb 19, 2007 11:19 pm
Forum: Evidences and Apologetics
Topic: The Atheist's proof for God
Replies: 17
Views: 37245

I doubt you will be moving on, you have an agenda just like everyone else that is why you are still here, which I am glad that you are. Conversation helps people to learn and grow, that is what the forum is for. Remember you came to the forum, you have motives, if your motives are to only point out ...
by JSM17
Sun Feb 18, 2007 7:16 am
Forum: Evidences and Apologetics
Topic: The Atheist's proof for God
Replies: 17
Views: 37245

It would seem that even before you came to the site you had your mind already made up. I was not accusing you of being anything I was going with what I had. The forum is "IN SEACH OF TRUTH" Maybe you can offer some wisdom towards the truth if there is any to find. The ultimate question is: "Is truth...
by JSM17
Sat Feb 17, 2007 9:02 pm
Forum: Evidences and Apologetics
Topic: The Atheist's proof for God
Replies: 17
Views: 37245

We did not seek you out, in fact it seems as you were passing by you sought us out. I have yet to see a Christian prove there is a God does that mean that Christians are really all just agnostics as well? Have you ever with an open mind and heart considered the evidences? Maybe we should try to talk...
by JSM17
Tue Feb 06, 2007 6:07 am
Forum: Sin and Salvation
Topic: Implications of Thief on the Cross: Saved by Faith Only?
Replies: 70
Views: 136482

A Final Thought: If you go back to the original post you will se why it was so important to respond to the thoughts being given regarding the tief. This event has always been a target for faith alone advocates, there is little evidence as to what the conditions were for the thief, yet they feel comp...
by JSM17
Mon Feb 05, 2007 10:11 pm
Forum: Jesus and God
Topic: The Deity of Jesus and the Trinity
Replies: 44
Views: 93916

Acts 20:28-29 28 Therefore take heed to yourselves and to all the flock, among which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers, to shepherd the church of God which He purchased with His own blood. NKJV It is small passages like these that do not allow me to get caught up in your doctrine of chaos Thin...
by JSM17
Sun Feb 04, 2007 6:43 pm
Forum: Jesus and God
Topic: The Deity of Jesus and the Trinity
Replies: 44
Views: 93916

According to Jehovah’s Witnesses, “Jesus is not God,” and thus should not be worshiped by Christians. The Watchtower, a magazine published twice a month by Jehovah’s Witnesses, emphatically stated in its November 1, 1964 issue: “…it is unscriptural for worshipers of the living and true God to render...
by JSM17
Sun Feb 04, 2007 6:39 pm
Forum: Jesus and God
Topic: The Deity of Jesus and the Trinity
Replies: 44
Views: 93916

CHRIST AS GOD The Scriptures do not speak of Christ as just a man, however. They also acknowledge His divine nature. In most of its occurrences, “Jehovah” is applied to the first person of the Godhead (i.e., the Father—Matthew 28:19). For example: “Jehovah said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right han...
by JSM17
Sat Feb 03, 2007 9:21 am
Forum: Sin and Salvation
Topic: no hell? no eternal punishment?
Replies: 33
Views: 66643

The burden is on you "truth" to prove that the story of the rich man and Lazarus is a parable, so far, even with an open mind and open heart no one would be convinced that it is a parable by your attempt to make it such. Again deal with these thoughts: 1. Neither the Lord nor any NT chronicler refer...
by JSM17
Sat Feb 03, 2007 9:06 am
Forum: Jesus and God
Topic: The Deity of Jesus and the Trinity
Replies: 44
Views: 93916

I thought that the scriptures would be overlooked in the reponse, so I thought I would post them so others could see the argument. What does the scriptures say about Christ, is he GOD? Sometimes when you point scriptures out to people they like to go to other passages that have nothing to do with th...
by JSM17
Wed Jan 31, 2007 6:40 am
Forum: Jesus and God
Topic: The Deity of Jesus and the Trinity
Replies: 44
Views: 93916

The Nature of Christ If the New Testament clearly affirms the divine nature of Jesus Christ, and yet the Lord referred to the Father as “my God,” then obviously there is no compromise of the Savior’s nature by his use of this expression. The biblical affirmations of the divine nature of Jesus Chris...
by JSM17
Sun Jan 28, 2007 1:29 am
Forum: Calvinism
Topic: Born in Sin! Regenerated from what?
Replies: 1
Views: 7621

Born in Sin! Regenerated from what?

The word that needs to be taken with some thought is the word "REGENERATION" If we are regenerated, then this implies that we were at one time at a state of degeneration, which implies that we were generate at one point. But if we are born or conceived depraved, full of sin, seperated from God, born...
by JSM17
Sat Jan 27, 2007 4:56 am
Forum: Jesus and God
Topic: Christ is not God?
Replies: 2
Views: 11769

1 Thess 4:16 16 For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. NASU This is the scripture that is used to proclaim that Jesus was an Archangel by some of the JW, this is set in contrast...
by JSM17
Sat Jan 27, 2007 4:32 am
Forum: Miscellaneous
Topic: Legal complications in Polygynous Marriages
Replies: 29
Views: 63963

The problem with your analysis has been addressed. You're employing a circular assumption with Matthew 19:6 in which you assume there can be no other "one flesh" relationships. The Syllogism that disproves this works as follows. A.) We know from Genesis 2:24 that you ARE one flesh with your wife. B...
by JSM17
Sun Jan 21, 2007 7:15 am
Forum: Holy Spirit, Apostles, and Miracles
Topic: The Gifts of The Spirit
Replies: 1
Views: 10919

When the HS "fell" (baptism of the HS) upon Cornelius and his household (Acts11:15), speaking in tongues was proof to Peter that the gentiles were now included in the class of people whom John and Christ promised, "shall be baptized in the HS" (Acts 11:15; cf. Luke 3:16; Acts 1:5) Acts11:15 proves A...
by JSM17
Fri Jan 19, 2007 8:44 pm
Forum: Sin and Salvation
Topic: no hell? no eternal punishment?
Replies: 33
Views: 66643

What does death involve? This terminal human experience can be a frightening prospect indeed if one is unprepared for it. Study this issue with us in this week’s Penpoints segment. When the writer of Psalms exclaimed: ”. . . the terrors of death are fallen upon me. Fearfulness and trembling are come...
by JSM17
Fri Jan 19, 2007 6:37 am
Forum: Jesus and God
Topic: The Deity of Jesus and the Trinity
Replies: 44
Views: 93916

Paradise Book The quotes are taken from the Wathc Tower book intitled Paradise, pages 39-40 in a chapter titled, "God—Who Is He?" under the subtitle of "Is God Jesus or a Trinity?" Paradise: Who is this wonderful God? Some persons say his name is Jesus. Others say he is a Trinity, although the word...
by JSM17
Fri Jan 19, 2007 6:11 am
Forum: Jesus and God
Topic: The Deity of Jesus and the Trinity
Replies: 44
Views: 93916

The WT defines God as one Person only. God = Father according to the WT. If a person were to take an unbiased look at how the Bible uses the word God, Jehovah, Almighty God, or any of the titles applied to the Father, they would clearly see that these same names and titles are applied to Jesus Chris...
by JSM17
Fri Jan 19, 2007 5:58 am
Forum: Sin and Salvation
Topic: no hell? no eternal punishment?
Replies: 33
Views: 66643

1. Neither the Lord nor any NT chronicler refer to it as a parable. The Lord's treatment of it, on the contrary, have all the marks of an account which is to be given historical credibility. 2. Abraham, who is part of the account, is real, historical figure, and undoubtedly, the rich man and Lazarus...
by JSM17
Tue Jan 16, 2007 11:01 pm
Forum: Miscellaneous
Topic: Did you know?
Replies: 2
Views: 11241

Thanks for the info!
by JSM17
Tue Jan 16, 2007 10:58 pm
Forum: Jesus and God
Topic: The Deity of Jesus and the Trinity
Replies: 44
Views: 93916

"He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation; because by means of him all [other] things were created in the heavens and upon the earth, the things visible and the things invisible, no matter whether they are thrones or lordships or governments or authorities. All [other] thi...
by JSM17
Tue Jan 16, 2007 10:38 pm
Forum: Sin and Salvation
Topic: no hell? no eternal punishment?
Replies: 33
Views: 66643

That is an interesting statement that you ended with, you take about the blood of Christ, do you even believe that Jesus is God? And what is your proof that Luke 16:19-31 is a parable, because of your doctrine you have to declare that this is just a fictional story or else you would have to change y...
by JSM17
Sat Jan 13, 2007 5:47 pm
Forum: Miscellaneous
Topic: Did you know?
Replies: 2
Views: 11241

Did you know?

Charles Taze Russell: Born in Pittsburgh, PA in 1852, the son of a draper, and attended a Calvinist Congregational Church. He was soon overcome with despair at the prospect of hell and went about proclaiming damnation for unbelievers. When he was 17, in trying to convert an atheist, he himself lost...
by JSM17
Sat Jan 13, 2007 5:40 pm
Forum: Jesus and God
Topic: Christ is not God?
Replies: 2
Views: 11769

Christ is not God?

Christ is not God Some deny the divinity of Christ and claim that Jesus was instead the first and greatest of God's creatures. From here things get even more bizarre. Someone claimed that Michael the Archangel transformed from his spiritual self into the human self of Jesus. Upon His death, he once ...
by JSM17
Sat Jan 13, 2007 5:27 pm
Forum: Sin and Salvation
Topic: no hell? no eternal punishment?
Replies: 33
Views: 66643

Romans 5:12 "12 Therefore, just as through one man sin entered into the world, and death through sin, and so death spread to all men, because all sinned.." continuing to verse 17 where we learn what type of death occured to Adam upon sinning: "17 For if by the transression of the one, death reigned ...
by JSM17
Sat Jan 13, 2007 6:16 am
Forum: Hermeneutics and Bible Authority
Topic: Which translation is the best?
Replies: 7
Views: 21076

Which translation is the best?

There are so many translations, many are written because of a groups beliefs. You have certain groups from times past that have not been able to prove their doctrine through the standard versions so they will create one for themselves. So the question today is which one is the best? Assuming that we...
by JSM17
Wed Jan 10, 2007 10:18 pm
Forum: Sin and Salvation
Topic: no hell? no eternal punishment?
Replies: 33
Views: 66643

I think "e-mail" main point here is the idea that people do not believe they will die. According to scripture that is given it seems as though one has to ask how Adam and eve died, if they ate from the tree then they would die. When would they die, right then, after several hundred years, or maybe i...
by JSM17
Wed Jan 10, 2007 6:34 am
Forum: Sin and Salvation
Topic: I Peter 3:21 is not water baptism
Replies: 1
Views: 9897

It is universally conceded that the “Great Commission,” as set forth by Mark (16:15-16), finds a counterpart at the conclusion of Matthew’s Gospel narrative (Matthew 28:18-20). A discussion of these parallels may be found in numerous works (e.g., D.A. Mackinnon in: Dictionary of Christ and the Gospe...
by JSM17
Wed Jan 10, 2007 6:22 am
Forum: Sin and Salvation
Topic: Forgiveness and the Old Law vs New Covenant
Replies: 1
Views: 10011

How could there be forgiveness of sins before Christ died (for example, in the Old Testament period), if forgiveness was predicated upon Jesus’ death?” Let us consider two aspects to this alleged problem. First, do the scriptures assert that, in some sense, “forgiveness” was obtainable before the de...
by JSM17
Wed Jan 10, 2007 6:15 am
Forum: Morality
Topic: women of the Bible
Replies: 2
Views: 10989

1 Tim 2:9-10 Likewise, I want women to adorn themselves with proper clothing, modestly and discreetly, not with braided hair and gold or pearls or costly garments, 10 but rather by means of good works, as is proper for women making a claim to godliness. NASU God certainly calls women to be modest, ...
by JSM17
Wed Jan 10, 2007 4:14 am
Forum: Sin and Salvation
Topic: no hell? no eternal punishment?
Replies: 33
Views: 66643

I am not sure what school of reasoning that you and "E-mail" have gone to, but your both out there in left field on this one. Not only are the thoughts speculative, there un reasonable, and you have no scripture to back it up all you have is a thought and some hope about a candle and a flame, in whi...
by JSM17
Mon Jan 08, 2007 5:00 am
Forum: Sin and Salvation
Topic: What is Hades?
Replies: 14
Views: 33570

What is Hades, is it hell, is it paradise? Did Christ decend into hell like some denominations (Lutherans) teach? Did Christ ascend into heaven when He died? When Christ told the thief on the cross that "today you will be with me in paradise", what did He mean by that? Do we go straight to hell or h...
by JSM17
Sat Jan 06, 2007 8:23 pm
Forum: Sin and Salvation
Topic: no hell? no eternal punishment?
Replies: 33
Views: 66643

Lets dust this one off and dig in. Rom 5:12-17 12 Therefore, just as through one man sin entered the world, and death through sin, and thus death spread to all men, because all sinned --13(For until the law sin was in the world, but sin is not imputed when there is no law.14 Nevertheless death reign...
by JSM17
Sat Jan 06, 2007 7:52 pm
Forum: Holy Spirit, Apostles, and Miracles
Topic: Indwelling of the Holy Spirit ... Word Only?
Replies: 9
Views: 23284

Indwelling of the Holy Spirit ... Word Only?

There is much controversy in the church about the indwelling of the Spirit. It has divided many and has caused people to black list those who hold to certain doctrine about the Holy Spirit. The question of the day is does the Holy Spirit dwell in the Christian literally in conjunction with the word ...
by JSM17
Sat Jan 06, 2007 7:41 pm
Forum: Sin and Salvation
Topic: What is Hades?
Replies: 14
Views: 33570

I do believe there will be a resurrection of the dead. Truth said: you ask what happens to the sprite. i will liken it to the flame on a candle . wile the flame burns the candle is alive , when the flame is snuffed out, were does the flame go ? it go's no were ,its done . the candle is waiting for t...
by JSM17
Fri Jan 05, 2007 6:25 am
Forum: Sin and Salvation
Topic: What is Hades?
Replies: 14
Views: 33570

Four times in the book of Revelation "Hades" is used by John. Each time it is coupled with thanatos "death" (cf. Rev. 1:18; 6:8). Two of these occurrences are of special eschatological importance. In Rev. 20:13, the record says, "And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hades del...