expediency
Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 4:55 pm
I have posted a couple of formums with some great feedback and I have felt that what I am trying to look at is things that are expedient and how the church differs in determining what is expedient. I have been studying and have come to understand this. God means what he means. If he says it do it. If it is specific, don't change it. If it is generic then he gives us freedom to follow that command by any means as long as it does not go against any other command he has given.
for instance lets look at the great commision.
We are told to go, teach, preach,baptize, and make discpiles.
Lets look at go. Does God care how we go as long as we go? If we only go by approved examples and inference, then we could only walk, ride mule/camel, or go by boat. Planes, trains, and automobiles would then be unauthorized and therefore sinful. But that is not expediant.
We are all told to teach. Men and women belivers both. If we go by approved by examples then the women could teach anyone but the men because of Paul's instructins to Timothy for women not upsurb the authrity of the man.
Baptize. If the King James writers had translated this right the frist time it would be immerse. No way around it. You must be immersed in water.
The reasoning for this is there seems to be a difference in what is authorized compared to what is not athorized.
It seems when we look at silence a few names seem to arise.
Uzza
Arron's sons.
lets look at were the authority is at in these instances.
Uzza- would not have died had the ark been carried right in the first place. Sure he tried to do the noble thing and stop the ark from falling but was wrong to do so. If the hight priests had been carring the ark like they were supposed to have he would not have reached out to touch it and therefore would have lived another day.
Arron's sons used unauthorized fire and there fore God killed them. They did not get the fire from where God told them to. I don't know where they got their fire from, but we know where they didn't get it.
I will not disagree that we all need to stand on the specific commands and follow them to the letter. I think that on items that are optional we need to find a way to unite and not try to bind them on each other. I would not try and bind a youth group (this is optional in the realm of teaching) and I hope some one else would not try and bind partaking of the fruit of the vine out of one cup.
Look at somethings optional we as a church use.
Buildings
pews
song books
over head projectors
powerpoint slide shows
sunday bible school
fellowship halls
classrooms
other printed material
radio
T.V.
this is just a few things that are optional that we use as aids. A means to an end. After my study I am confident that when I worship with the congregation at my home church God is glorified. I see it in work we do. I see that he is working with and blessing us. I want to thank those who have responded to my eariler posts and doing so in a loving way.
for instance lets look at the great commision.
We are told to go, teach, preach,baptize, and make discpiles.
Lets look at go. Does God care how we go as long as we go? If we only go by approved examples and inference, then we could only walk, ride mule/camel, or go by boat. Planes, trains, and automobiles would then be unauthorized and therefore sinful. But that is not expediant.
We are all told to teach. Men and women belivers both. If we go by approved by examples then the women could teach anyone but the men because of Paul's instructins to Timothy for women not upsurb the authrity of the man.
Baptize. If the King James writers had translated this right the frist time it would be immerse. No way around it. You must be immersed in water.
The reasoning for this is there seems to be a difference in what is authorized compared to what is not athorized.
It seems when we look at silence a few names seem to arise.
Uzza
Arron's sons.
lets look at were the authority is at in these instances.
Uzza- would not have died had the ark been carried right in the first place. Sure he tried to do the noble thing and stop the ark from falling but was wrong to do so. If the hight priests had been carring the ark like they were supposed to have he would not have reached out to touch it and therefore would have lived another day.
Arron's sons used unauthorized fire and there fore God killed them. They did not get the fire from where God told them to. I don't know where they got their fire from, but we know where they didn't get it.
I will not disagree that we all need to stand on the specific commands and follow them to the letter. I think that on items that are optional we need to find a way to unite and not try to bind them on each other. I would not try and bind a youth group (this is optional in the realm of teaching) and I hope some one else would not try and bind partaking of the fruit of the vine out of one cup.
Look at somethings optional we as a church use.
Buildings
pews
song books
over head projectors
powerpoint slide shows
sunday bible school
fellowship halls
classrooms
other printed material
radio
T.V.
this is just a few things that are optional that we use as aids. A means to an end. After my study I am confident that when I worship with the congregation at my home church God is glorified. I see it in work we do. I see that he is working with and blessing us. I want to thank those who have responded to my eariler posts and doing so in a loving way.