Hi twinc,twinc wrote:this is absolutely so for Catholics
Most of the people on this site are not Catholics. Catholics are welcomed, as are all people. However, this site is devoted to "truthseekers", which means there are no assumptions here. Everything can and should be challenged.
If we can agree on the Bible as a common, mutual authority, would you be willing to discuss the Scripturalness of the Catholic church? I believe the Bible teaches that God's Word, the Scriptures are not only sufficient and effective, but they is the only authority in spiritual matters (i.e., Sola Scriptura):
Paul, the Lord's apostle, wrote:how that by revelation He made known to me the mystery (as I have briefly written already, by which, when you read, you may understand my knowledge in the mystery of Christ), which in other ages was not made known to the sons of men, as it has now been revealed by the Spirit to His holy apostles and prophets: (Ephesians 3:3-5)
All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work. (II Timothy 3:16-17)
Peter, an inspired apostle, wrote:as His divine power has given to us all things that pertain to life and godliness, through the knowledge of Him who called us by glory and virtue, as His divine power has given to us all things that pertain to life and godliness, through the knowledge of Him who called us by glory and virtue, (II Peter 1:2-3)
If we can understand the Bible when we read it, and if it contains all that we need for life and godliness, and if it enables the man of God to be complete, and if "the faith" is not to be expanded upon, then what room is left for any other authority but God's Word?Jude, an inspired prophet, wrote:Beloved, while I was very diligent to write to you concerning our common salvation, I found it necessary to write to you exhorting you to contend earnestly for the faith which was once for all delivered to the saints. (Jude 1:3)
I look forward to your thoughts.
Your thread is fundamentally broken, because it is built on a logical fallacy - an appeal to (an unaccepted) authority. Show me where the Scriptures teach simul et ex nihilo, and I'll be happy to discuss that. ... You and I are working from distinct platforms, and until we reconcile them, there's not much point in going further.twinc wrote:lets not deviate from the question - so is simul et ex nihilo accepted or acceptable or not - your sola scripture is explained elsewhere - twinc